The Saint Epifanios Olive - No1
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The Saint Epifanios Olive - No1
Well, one more olive. This one collected with a few others during a yamadory hunding last November.
Due to luck of a proper training pot , an old paint barrel used!
The new growth started at early spring and now as you can see the most of the branches are longer than 1m!
Any comments are more than welcome.
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Due to luck of a proper training pot , an old paint barrel used!
The new growth started at early spring and now as you can see the most of the branches are longer than 1m!
Any comments are more than welcome.
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I really like mediterranian trees, are the most suitable to our climate.
1. I want to ask you how are you going to proceed after summer?
I mean are you going to choose the leader branch and cut off the others, or select some main branches and cut off the rest?
With what criteria are you going to make the choise of the branches to remain and the ones to be cut off?
2. When you are picking up a yamadori, do you wash off the old soil and substitute it with the new (not organic) or do you take it as it is and change the soil one year later, when the tree has passed the shock of the root cutting?
1. I want to ask you how are you going to proceed after summer?
I mean are you going to choose the leader branch and cut off the others, or select some main branches and cut off the rest?
With what criteria are you going to make the choise of the branches to remain and the ones to be cut off?
2. When you are picking up a yamadori, do you wash off the old soil and substitute it with the new (not organic) or do you take it as it is and change the soil one year later, when the tree has passed the shock of the root cutting?
damianos- Posts : 24
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Well Iam not sure if I will proceed after summer or leave it in peace for a few more months. In any case I will repot it in a more appropriate pot then I will choose the leader and the branches that I feel that are the most appropriate, I will cut everything else. Wiring will follow.
To choose the right branches I will have in mind the following
1. Leave the lower third of the trunk without branches
2. the branches must create a spiral stair
3. avoid branches to come out from the inside part of a trunk bend and be sure if possible of the opposite.
As far as your second question , What I do with yamadory is to remove all the soil and and use a substrate with good drainage.
To choose the right branches I will have in mind the following
1. Leave the lower third of the trunk without branches
2. the branches must create a spiral stair
3. avoid branches to come out from the inside part of a trunk bend and be sure if possible of the opposite.
As far as your second question , What I do with yamadory is to remove all the soil and and use a substrate with good drainage.
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Please, when you make the selection of the branches to remain, upload the photos in order for us to see in practice how one should proceed.
I say that, because so far I only see pics of yamadori trees in their first stage (just off the ground) and not seen yet the further steps that follow.
I say that, because so far I only see pics of yamadori trees in their first stage (just off the ground) and not seen yet the further steps that follow.
damianos- Posts : 24
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I really like the rough bark at the lower part of the tree. it gives lots of character to it.
personally, i would probably cut the top part of the trunk at the height of the stump, and expose the base of the trunk to find the nebari and choose the best position for the tree, choosing the front and deciding the best potting angle.
lovely tree
personally, i would probably cut the top part of the trunk at the height of the stump, and expose the base of the trunk to find the nebari and choose the best position for the tree, choosing the front and deciding the best potting angle.
lovely tree
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Hi Stauros,
there is no more nebari! the root ball was cut horizontally with a chainsaw, its ready when the time comes to be fit into a bonsai pot.
What I have in mind actually to do is something similar to what Walter did to the following tree.
I Can see many similarities, dont you think?
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there is no more nebari! the root ball was cut horizontally with a chainsaw, its ready when the time comes to be fit into a bonsai pot.
What I have in mind actually to do is something similar to what Walter did to the following tree.
I Can see many similarities, dont you think?
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Hello Greg. If you do chose to follow Walters path, I would at least hollow it out. Personally I would remove the bark along the line that Walters tree is and make some carving above that point. Great tree...as always from you guys.
will baddeley- Posts : 52
Joined date : 2011-05-10
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will baddeley wrote:Hello Greg. If you do chose to follow Walters path, I would at least hollow it out. Personally I would remove the bark along the line that Walters tree is and make some carving above that point. Great tree...as always from you guys.
Thanks Will! I will propably follow your sugestion
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An update.......
Yes, this is one of the many trees we had the fortune to do the preliminary styling during our last workshop with Graham
And as they say ,One photo is Worth A Thousand Words, I will let the photos do the talk.
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Yes, this is one of the many trees we had the fortune to do the preliminary styling during our last workshop with Graham
And as they say ,One photo is Worth A Thousand Words, I will let the photos do the talk.
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After
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Greg wrote:An update.......
Yes, this is one of the many trees we had the fortune to do the preliminary styling during our last workshop with Graham
And as they say ,One photo is Worth A Thousand Words, I will let the photos do the talk.
Great tree!!
The deadwood work and the hollow looks great!
M4r0k1nos- Posts : 3
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Age : 39
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i shouldn't repeat myself but i have to say once more, the deadwood is really nice!
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Great improvement Greg....Now it needs time to establish some foliage....Any repotting friend...that thing is not of your calliber...
Savvas P.- Posts : 808
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Savvas P. wrote:Great improvement Greg....Now it needs time to establish some foliage....Any repotting friend...that thing is not of your calliber...
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What????the pot(thing) i mean....
Savvas P.- Posts : 808
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I am very excited , This year first repotting.
From a paint barrel to a great pot, what a transformation!
Lucky enough to see many fine roots during repotting.
the nebari came a little bigger than what I was expected. This situation forced me to use a bigger pot (38cm wide). tree height from pot lips 50cm
Eventually pot is looking great and the size is more appropriate for a long term.
It will need a few years to thicken branches and a have a good ramification.
I am not sure which side to be the front yet
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From a paint barrel to a great pot, what a transformation!
Lucky enough to see many fine roots during repotting.
the nebari came a little bigger than what I was expected. This situation forced me to use a bigger pot (38cm wide). tree height from pot lips 50cm
Eventually pot is looking great and the size is more appropriate for a long term.
It will need a few years to thicken branches and a have a good ramification.
I am not sure which side to be the front yet
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SUPER Greg!!Indeed what a trasformation.I will not talk about trees ramification etc,cause picture is not very clear,but surely,pot and tree combination is super.What a change.Well done.
Savvas P.- Posts : 808
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Savvas P. wrote:SUPER Greg!!Indeed what a trasformation.I will not talk about trees ramification etc,cause picture is not very clear,but surely,pot and tree combination is super.What a change.Well done.
Many thanks Savvas
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Very impressive Greg.
Thanks for the link to your site.
Peter E.
Thanks for the link to your site.
Peter E.
Peter E.- Posts : 2
Joined date : 2013-11-04
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Hi Peter,Peter E. wrote:Very impressive Greg.
Thanks for the link to your site.
Peter E.
Its an honour to have here to our forum. Many thanks.
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I think that the specific tree is becoming a fine example of an original cypriot bonsai that was started from scratch. it is quite impressive if you think that this tree was growing in the wilderness just 3 years ago!!!!
Well done Greg!!!
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